Islamadon 5094 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 Hey Little Squaklings :3 Within the deep bowels of Story Management, the neurotic think-tankers have identified a potential problem. This said, we are uncertain as to whether it is worth pursuing; and if so, we are uncertain as to how it may be pursued. This potential problem is TECHLOCK - a nasty word for Human roleplayers. More specifically, Armament Techlock with regards to both Plate Armor and Ranged Weapons. There is an opinion that Plate Armor holds too great a presence on the current CRP meta given that everyone, except physically weak Mages, seems to default to this armor type. As it stands, there are functionally zero downsides to Plate Armor. In contrast, Ranged Weaponry has seen a steady decrease in use outside of events due to high emote costs and generally becoming outclassed by magic. Why spend three emotes (or more) loading a bow when a pesky magician can air deflect/teleport, or a knight can sidestep/block? Given these perceived issues, the ST has decided to open this topic to the public to ensure that we aren’t echoing in a bubble and making decisions unilaterally. Any changes to either’s functionality would drastically change the RP climate and potentially infringe upon current playstyles. We would like to be told outright whether these perceived issues are valid or if we are overthinking things with LT-Brain. We thus invite the community to levy their suggestions, comments, or concerns so that we might begin to chart a course to meet what the community desires. This said, DO NOT treat this Your View like a guaranteed election. If there are no viable solutions, even if a vast swathe of the Community desires a change, we will not forcibly implement one. This said, if the Community feels as if there are no real problems, we will let this rest. As a note for those making their opinions known, I emphasize that any suggestions should try and avoid these pitfalls. 1. No Guns - The Administration does not want them. 2. No Movement Changes - This may be too restrictive; testing shows a massive powerboost for mages, etc. when Plate Armor is slowed. 3. No Combat Rule Changes - Though technically possible, changes would need to be enforceable serverwide and approved by Moderation/Admins given that it extends beyond ST purview. 4. No CRP Overhaul - Necessitates a complete change in ruleset and the way we engage in CRP on the server. 5. No Roll-Based Mechanics - Necessitates a complete change in ruleset and/or the way we engage in CRP on the server. This would also likely require different team responsibilities and plugin requirements. Happy Days, Islamadon P.S. I am not going to personally respond to this thread; I want to read, not debate! 51 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pallodium 822 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 Me when no "LotC: The Gun Update" 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckless Banzai Screamer 12889 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 6 minutes ago, Islamadon said: 1. No Guns - The Administration does not want them. they will know pain 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrvun 1300 Share Posted May 30 i don't think the problem is real, but the only way to make people want to use anything but plate-- because plate is the best of the best-- would be a movement change imo. (i know it's not a topic to be discussed just the only way i could see it being changed if thats what you want to do) it just doesn't make sense to use anything but plate if i only place myself at a disadvantage using anything else. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethWolf 1500 Share Posted May 30 Don't do what Helldivers does. Don't nerf plate armour, just buff ranged weapons. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlemishSupremacy 5079 Share Posted May 30 hmm yes add guns In reality though, a few more plate armor piercing options available to both the various magics AND ranged weapons available to the common man might make plate less OP As it stands, the only weapon capable of piercing plate is the arbalest, which requires 5 emotes, which means you can only really use it if whoever you're shooting can neither get to you or get away, at which point, u could just throw rocks at them until they die. I know the crank crossbow says it can pierce thinner plate armor but i'm really strong so i don't wear any thin plate tehee!! If the 4 emote crank crossbow. Also, I often see people try to gaslight ranged weapon users into rolling to see if they don't miss outright... Stop that, they didn't spend 3 emotes to just miss cus they had an unlucky roll. You don't ask someone swinging an axe at you to see if they just miss either. (Also looking at you, event team members who really like to embarass players by having them miss the broad side of a barn with a silly little roll) 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySeo 5605 Share Posted May 30 Currently, a rock is a more effective ranged weapon than a longbow. For the love of god fix ranged weapons. 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller 2554 Share Posted May 30 just use maces bro they counter plate armour (smash their skull in) stop using swords 100% of the time like sheep also i think ranged weapons need a buff HOWEVER we would have to be careful because this could just lead to power creep (buff ranged weapons and mages start crying, 'why would i use magic when i can just use a bow' which results in them getting buffed etc etc) 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_VEVO 1826 Share Posted May 30 Again, the people's voice is unheard. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblinmancer 4159 Share Posted May 30 just add a clarification for plate armor (its weaknesses etc) 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltaMoss 1869 Share Posted May 30 Mfw magic stacking and widespread dissemination of alchemy and crp magics have created a meta in CRP that outclasses everything lol you did it to yourself 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyWonderr 175 Share Posted May 30 me when i cant powergame a bullet breaching plate armor, win the crp, and be crowned lord of the craft for my amazing efforts 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeawithFrisket 2791 Share Posted May 30 Call me stupid or r word (to respect those who don’t like that word) the way i see it, tech-lock has disallowed many types of things that in the theme of LOTC wouldn’t make sense. However there has been many arguments that LOTC has moved away from its ORIGINAL theme. For how I seen plate armor used, there is to my knowledge NO definitive definition to how plate armor is effective with ranged artillery(such as arrows or bolts or even darts.) however most believe anything larger than a javelin will penetrate the shiny top quality dwarven armor that your mother made for you. For how can one truly solve this issue, maybe define how plate works against ranged weapons? (Curse phone formatting and auto correct) 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreamingDingo 17549 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 Just now, MaltaMoss said: Mfw magic stacking and widespread dissemination of alchemy and crp magics have created a meta in CRP that outclasses everything lol you did it to yourself Ferrymen comprehension skills 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seannie 7091 Share Posted May 30 16 minutes ago, Islamadon said: 1. No Guns - The Administration does not want them. this will not be forgiven 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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