Will (TauFirewarrior)

why couldn't they just move the thread? We were about to debate. 

your solution to the supposed problems of "Capitalism" is some form of Socialism

Hahaha, Space you make me laugh. The amount of regulation and Government Control right now is higher than any time in history. The amount of regulations in any Country in the West to do anything is ridiculous and the big corporations and banks are backed up by the Government to essentially never fail. Under Capitalism as envisioned by Adam Smith and many Capitalist Philosophers these regulations that lead to eventual failure of small and medium business and this government intervention would not exist. 

I could move onto the Law of Value? Which can get pretty complicated but its just disagreeable, for example two forces of labour can do pretty much the exact same thing, such as making a t-shirt, you have your bogstandard t-shirt from your local supermarket or a t-shirt with a logo of a popular brand on it. The logo'd t-shirt is wroth more due to supply and demand. The value of labour is determined by supply and demand.

If you thing any Modern Nation is truly Capitalist then you'd be mistaken. Capitalism is economics based on individuals, our markets are so mixed and the market element has been taken over by Corporatism and not Capitalism. While I am a voice for reform to lessen the power of legal entities it is still a better alternative to a State owning the means of production.

The idea that working for a wage is exploitative when its completely voluntary? They've volunteered their labour to work a wage and there is nothing inherently wrong with that concept. Karl Marx believed it in general exploitative and needing to end. So thats one.  Inequality? Well people are not equal in sheer scope and ability, so those who have the ability to excel should be allowed to in the Meritocratic system of Capitalism, those who can't can still live wholesome and full lives with happiness even if they're not the not mega-rich. Capitalism has a proven track record in the West of bringing people out of poverty and improving the standard of living for millions. So he's wrong on that count.

No, the fundamental ideas of Karl Marx are wrong. Karl Marx's opinions on Capitalism is wrong. Karl Marx himself was a terrible person. Trying to force an equality of outcome for humans who are fundamentally different. No one is equal to one another truly. Business Owners have a right to their property, anyone who owns property has a right to their property. Its yours, no one is entitled to live in your house or use your car. You are.

There is a choice, its why a lot of kids from dirt poor midwestern mining families moved to urban areas or migrated. You have freedom of movement within your own Country. Under a Communist or "State Socialism" you can't leave your settlement. You are forced to work otherwise you are seen as a parasite, if you refuse, you get killed. 

Capitalism is about choice. In a Capitalist society you are free to go live your Communist adventures, buy a piece of land and set up a commune. Under Communism or "State Socialism" you'd get lynched for trying to show some ******* creativity. Oh and Karl Marx was an anti-semite, classist good for nothing who's only achievement is inspiring bloody revolutions and making entitled millennials wanna try it "One last time". Not everyone's labour is equal, some peoples labour is worth more than others. But the individual should benefit from his or her own labour and not a collective.  

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